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Interested in booking Cat for your podcast?

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Thanks for thinking of me for your show! I love talking with people who build software, lead engineering teams, and care about the humans doing that work, and I'm a regular guest on workplace and technology podcasts.

To make this easy for both of us, below you'll find my current most-frequent conversation topics that are the best fit for most shows that reach out to me. If it looks like a fit, get in touch! 

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1. Is AI making developers worse? AI Skill Threat, learning debt, and how we can design for expertise-building in the agentic era

Everyone is talking about cognition, our minds, and AI: as a learning scientist for technology teams, I have a lot of thoughts! We can break down my New Developer study (a large-scale exploration of identity threat for developers adopting AI, and what helps them overcome it). We can also discuss cognitive pitfalls such as the fluency illusion or the illusion of explanatory depth, and how they hold software teams back from fully capitalizing on AI. Finally, I have a strong, evidence-backed POV on the types of investments that lead to expertise-building for teams in the agentic era, and how you can use deliberate practice and structured learning strategies to keep building your comprehension of technical systems while working with increased automation.

Example Questions: 

  • What is AI Skill Threat, and why does it matter for adoption?

  • What cognitive biases trip us up when we use AI? What's the fluency illusion, and how do developers avoid it?

  • How can we get good evidence about agentic coding's effects on our minds? Which popular claims about AI and learning hold up, and which don't?

2. The Psychology of Software Teams

I'm the author of the Psychology of Software Teams, which has been called "the 'Accelerate' of the agentic era" (Charity Majors, CTO, Honeycomb). For an author interview, we can explore the greatest hits in the book, including how to help your teams form coalitions that break through conflict, how developers can harness the science of motivation to thrive and innovate, and how organizations can tap into behavioral science and evidence to build better environments for their people. 

Example Questions: 

  • What's the "brains in jars" model of software development and why does it hold us back?

  • What are top pieces of evidence from psychology that can help an engineering manager this week?

  • Your book describes the power of "cumulative cultures" in technology. What does it take to build such a culture on a team?

3. Emerging trends: Resilience in large technical systems & the measurement of difficult things

I enjoy appearing on shows to talk about how I see emerging trends impacting technical people and their experience.

Currently, my in-the-field research focuses on environmental pressures that unlock, or block, good problem-solving. I've led the development of novel measurements that help us measure and track the impact of psychological pressures impacting technical work, such as capacity and affect breakdowns during incidents, Overproduction Pressure, Contest Cultures, and whether or not technical people feel encourage to take prosocial actions. As a methodologist, I'm also highly interested in how we develop measurements that are more fair, insightful, and helpful -- I'm an author of both complex causal inference work showing how inaccurate measures of cycle time hide meaningful variation between teams, and also on the first empirically-tested intervention that helps Code Review Anxiety. I enjoy discussing the ins-and-outs of how we create better evidence science for technical workers.

Example Questions: 

  • How can my audience learn to practice repair and resilience in their own work lives? What evidence from psychology can we use to recover from stressful technical incidents? 

  • How can "intervention thinking" help technical teams understand themselves and the drivers in their environments better?

  • What are the biggest psychological dynamics you see software teams struggling with right now? 

Recent Podcast Appearances

On episode 14 of Third Loop, the Progressive Delivery team sits down with Dr. Cat Hicks, psychologist and author of The Psychology of Software Teams. Cat unpacks the “Brains in Jars” mental model, the belief that engineers are interchangeable pure-cognition units, and explains why organizations that hold it struggle to use AI well. The conversation covers learning debt, overproduction pressure, and what teams should do with the time agents save.

This week is different: no news, no clock. Shimin and Dan sit down with Dr. Cat Hicks — psychologist for the humans in tech, principal scientist at Catharsis, and author of The Psychology of Software Teams — for a standalone interview on the psychological side of AI-era software engineering. The conversation covers the “brains in jars” organization that values developers while stripping them of their humanity, why the 10x-engineer myth is so sticky and what it costs, Dan’s McCarthy core-protocols check-in ritual, Cat’s learning-opportunities skill for effortful learning inside agentic workflows, the fluency illusion and AI-mediated metacognitive decoupling (picking up from the Episode 30 deep dive), why working developers have no good way to measure their own skills, her informed-patient skill for health questions, and what a healthy AI-native team looks like when one side is producing a slop mountain and the other is stuck as the rigor police.

Dr Cat Hicks is a psychological scientist and the founder of Catharsis, a human-centred research consultancy that works with engineering organisations. After self-funding her first open-access study into developer motivation, she was recruited to lead the Developer Success Lab at Pluralsight — a three-year programme that generated large-scale empirical research across hundreds of companies and more than 11,000 developers. Her book, The Psychology of Software Teams, published in July 2026, brings that evidence to bear on the question her industry keeps asking: why do smart people in smart organisations so often struggle to work well together? We talk about the hidden costs of treating developers as interchangeable units, what large-scale cycle time data reveals about individual performance, and how product managers can build the conditions for teams to actually thrive.

Recent Media

What your developers aren't telling you — Dr Cat Hicks (Psychologist and Founder)
49:33
The Psychology of Software Teams - Cat Hicks | Craft 2025
46:30
Cat Hicks: Brains in Jars, Overproduction Pressure, and the Future of Software Teams | JetBrains
01:15:29
The Psychology of Software Teams with Dr. Cat Hicks | ADI Pod #40
35:32
Not Just Brains in Jars: The Human Psychology of Developers
47:06
The Psychology of Technologists  (Cat Hicks, Catharsis Consulting) | posit::conf(2025)
01:02:43
Psychology, Technological Innovation, and Why We Need Science (with Dr. Cat Hicks)
24:26
Where we’re going wrong with developer productivity | Catherine Hicks at leadDev London 2023
25:50
Measuring Cycle Time with Dr. Cat Hicks
44:53
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